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00:00.0
Yan, speaking of Netflix series, I mean, wait a minute, bakit hindi mahuli-huli si Bantag and Kiboloy?
00:06.4
And I don't know, what about Tevez? I mean, because I want to ask you about the ICC, ang point ko is,
00:11.2
eh kung mga ganito lang level, hindi mahuli-huli, what gives you optimism that we can move on the ICC front?
00:16.6
So first, bakit hindi mahuli-huli itong mga Kiboloy, Bantag? I think everyone knows na saan naman sila eh.
00:21.7
Protectado ba sila ng ano? What's going on?
00:24.1
Okay. Unang-una si Mato Bato, hindi rin naman nila nahuli eh.
00:30.0
Diba? Nung Mato Bato and Las Cañas, nung panahon ni Duterte, talagang pinahanap niya ito,
00:37.1
ang daming tracking tips na sinet sa PNT to run after these people, pero hindi naman nila nahuli eh.
00:44.4
So siguro, we're talking about competence here, diba? Capacity.
00:50.3
All through the net.
00:51.0
Oo. Ngayon dito naman, Kiboloy, kina Bantag,
00:56.9
kung may dedicated tracking teams lang, mahuhuli yan.
01:02.2
Tapos maglagay ka lang ng reward system.
01:04.9
To be fair to the PNP, may mga kilala tayo, mga magagaling dyan mag-track,
01:11.9
pati ISAP, kaya nila yung habulin kung bibigyan talaga ng dedicated tracking teams.
01:18.9
It will be costly, pero lalabas yan.
01:22.7
Or they can resort to what the Americans,
01:26.9
did kay Saddam Hussein.
01:29.8
Maglagay ka ng exorbitant na reward money na po.
01:34.5
Yung bodyguard niyan mismo ang magmungusu dyan.
01:39.7
And they will claim it.
01:41.8
So you're saying medyo kulang pa ng kuwantin ng incentives.
01:45.2
I mean, we're thinking some of these fugitives are used to luxurious life.
01:49.7
Tinanong natin si Justice Carpico, he's from Davao.
01:51.7
Sabi ko, sa tingin mo ba, parang ano ba ito eh?
01:54.1
Diba yung mga ibang fugitive nakatago dun sa gitna?
01:56.9
Sabi mo, mukhang ito luxury ang...
01:58.9
So, it's not hard to find.
02:00.5
I'm sure may malaki siyang place.
02:02.4
We've been to all around.
02:03.7
So, daming mga vulnerabilities pa.
02:08.5
And yun na nga yung vulnerable point nila.
02:11.2
Pero maglagay ka ng reward money,
02:14.0
O merong, let's say, 10 million peso reward
02:17.2
sa magbibigay ng information.
02:19.5
That will lead to the arrest nitong mga ito.
02:23.0
Nako, isang magme-message dyan.
02:26.9
Ipa-process nila yun.
02:28.2
I-filter nila yung mga pranked messages.
02:32.0
And, ano, mauhuli nila yan.
02:34.5
Tsaka, itong mga ito, hindi yan nag-off the grid.
02:36.7
So, even through, ano, signal communications,
02:43.0
makukuha nila yan.
02:44.6
And, Senator, now let's talk about the ICC one.
02:47.5
I mean, I know for a while people were saying,
02:50.3
ano lang, nagmamaritest ka lang.
02:52.3
Maritest tayo, in a way,
02:53.5
because we have been talking about this since last year pa.
02:56.9
Tumama tayo kay Dalima that she'll be freed last year.
03:01.1
Yung investigation, papayagan.
03:04.1
Lalambot yung position ng government.
03:07.0
I mean, obviously, they're saying,
03:08.4
we may be okay with the warrants of arrest if they come in.
03:14.3
So, what gives you confidence June and July?
03:16.4
I think my understanding is,
03:17.4
if you look at the timetable of ICC,
03:19.6
dapat within the year.
03:20.4
I think everyone knows that.
03:21.5
Everyone who's following yung procedures ng ICC,
03:24.3
despite the confidentiality.
03:26.9
I think June and July.
03:29.7
Why before election?
03:30.9
Kasi the reason I'm asking is,
03:32.5
siguro medyo maging iba yung impact
03:33.9
kung warrants of arrest come out in October, November
03:36.1
rather than June, July, right?
03:37.5
Kasi we're looking at also the midterm elections
03:39.4
and the impact it will have
03:40.5
in terms of election positioning and all.
03:43.4
gagawin ng isang kampo,
03:44.6
sabi nila mga biktima sila.
03:47.0
Sa kabilang kampo, sabi nila,
03:48.6
ay, mga ano to, mga fugitive to.
03:50.1
Huwag kayong makipag-aliansa sa mga yan.
03:52.1
Ka-questioning pa siguro yung candidacy nila.
03:54.6
So, I'm just looking at the timetable,
03:56.9
and interesting itong dynamic na to.
04:02.7
well, first of all,
04:03.6
we're just dealing with estimates here.
04:05.9
We're not in control of
04:07.7
the actual release of the warrants of arrest
04:12.6
because only the pretrial chamber can decide on that.
04:18.4
So, itong office of the prosecutor,
04:21.7
what they can do is to file the application for warrant
04:28.5
it's 30 to 60 days
04:30.3
after the application of the warrant
04:33.0
bago nilalabas yung warrant.
04:36.1
So, you just have to extrapolate.
04:38.7
Kaya, yun yung ano natin.
04:41.6
Hindi naman, ano yan,
04:45.7
kung sasabihin kong June, July,
04:48.7
tapos biglang lumabas na August,
04:51.3
I don't think people will crucify me
04:53.3
for missing the target
04:57.2
I don't think so.
04:58.1
I mean, look at yung kabila.
04:59.5
Ilang months na sinasabi nila,
05:00.7
may pulvoronic videos sila.
05:02.3
Go pa rin sila hanggang ngayon.
05:05.7
nagmarisantoryano.
05:10.1
kung eventually lalabas,
05:11.9
pwede mo silang sabihin,
05:20.5
nung mga nakakausap natin
05:26.4
nag-move na yan eh,
05:28.2
from late May eh.
05:33.2
paurong na nung paurong.
05:34.7
hindi naman nila kontrolado.
05:36.0
They're just getting information.
05:39.2
if sinabi natin June or July,
05:42.3
pero lumabas ng August,
05:44.0
palagi ko patatawarin po rin tayo
05:46.4
ng ano na hindi marites yung
05:48.9
Walang refund doon sana.
05:50.8
Walang refund doon.
05:53.8
but remember Richard,
06:05.3
kung hindi ka pa sunog,
06:06.8
kung hindi mo pa sila sinusunog.
06:08.9
And every time naman,
06:10.4
I'm giving them good information.
06:14.4
parang natutulog ka lang sa,
06:18.0
bahay pag gising mo.
06:19.4
sabihin ko nga to,
06:30.8
process ng pag-collect ng information.
06:33.5
Meron din tayong process
06:34.8
na pag-validate ng information.
06:38.5
So we don't just,
06:39.5
once we get information,
06:41.7
we validate information.
06:51.9
based on experience,
06:55.1
nabibigay siya ng
06:56.1
reliable information.
06:58.7
the information itself
07:02.9
Most likely true.
07:04.3
ganun yung intelligence classification.
07:06.2
Basta hindi galing ito
07:07.1
kay Agent Morales,
07:10.1
baka grabe yung back and forth nila
07:13.6
baka ako hindi convicted, eh.
07:16.9
Talagang sabi ko,
07:18.8
is this the worst Senate?
07:23.0
what's happening.
07:28.6
ang pinakang ano kasi dito
07:32.6
yung hearing itself.
07:34.8
Why was there a hearing
07:40.8
may parang national emergency.
07:45.3
na kailangan i-hear mo na
07:46.6
kasi yung regular process
07:49.8
at baka magkakaroon ng,
07:51.3
ng mabigit na damage
07:57.4
Bakit hindi dinaanib ba to
08:06.9
vet mo yung witness mo,
08:08.5
i-check mo yung documents mo,
08:11.2
saan ba tuwahan tong,
08:12.8
then you file the resolution.
08:15.6
once you file the resolution,
08:18.0
you respect the decision
08:19.2
of the Senate leadership
08:20.3
kung saan dadaling yan.
08:21.9
It doesn't have to be your,
08:24.7
Ito, presidente yung involved.
08:27.6
pwedeng pag-aralan muna
08:28.8
ng rules committee yan.
08:31.7
We need to make sure
08:32.9
because we're putting
08:33.7
the president here
08:39.1
ang allegation mo
08:40.0
na gumagamit siya
08:46.2
yung cut-off natin?
08:49.1
umamin siya na fentanyl addict siya,
08:54.7
meron siyang drug test challenge
08:56.4
vlog live ngayon.
09:00.9
they just keep on coming up
09:03.7
what do you think about
09:04.5
BBM eto sa Jensen
09:06.2
next to Manny Pacquiao siguro?
09:09.8
Kasi yun ang concern ko sa kanya,
09:11.0
yung sinasabing kuting siya,
09:12.1
hindi siya tigre.
09:14.7
professional liar yan eh,
09:17.2
bibigyan mo ng kahit ano,
09:19.5
Don't you think we need to see
09:20.7
more of that from BBM?
09:22.0
He has to show also
09:23.9
it cannot be everyone,
09:25.2
including his wife,
09:26.3
coming in and he has to
09:27.4
fight for himself.
09:28.2
He has to show he's the man.
09:32.4
etong hearing ni Bato,
09:35.3
that was the red line.
09:36.9
Parang sobra na yan.
09:39.9
It was an affront kay Bato
09:44.5
committee chairman ka,
09:47.2
pinalusot mo yung
09:56.5
kung maalala nyo itong
10:03.1
pinipresent sa amin yan.
10:06.9
ilang vetting yun,
10:08.3
ilang interrogation
10:10.2
hindi siya makapasa-pasa eh.
10:15.5
Hindi ko nilabas.
10:20.3
Sinabit ko yung mga
10:26.6
nakuha ko naman na
10:27.5
iba yung sa bank accounts
10:30.5
na kurakot si Duterte.
10:37.0
wina-whitewash nila
10:38.0
nung time na yun.
10:53.0
i-hearing mo kagad?
10:56.3
When will you stop?
11:02.1
communications plan
11:13.2
committee hearing
11:16.4
siya yung mag-a-agitate
11:27.0
and that is supposed to
11:32.0
of the general public
11:33.2
which would lead to
11:37.0
withdrawing support.
11:43.8
hindi nagtraction eh.
11:53.5
nung tinanong siya,
11:54.6
confidential agent mo eh,
11:56.0
hindi raw niya maalala,
11:58.0
may problema tayo doon.
12:02.3
Speaking of this,
12:04.1
I don't wanna put you
12:06.2
the administration
12:12.1
or will weaponize it
12:15.1
should the warrants
12:16.6
in the coming months?
12:18.2
I don't wanna put you
12:19.2
but the point is,
12:20.7
prognostication here?
12:25.1
the warrants of arrest
12:28.5
and nakalutang lang
12:29.4
and then he will,
12:31.0
dribble around it?
12:33.4
ang tingin ko nga,
12:34.8
he doesn't even need
12:42.5
may international
12:43.1
agreement in place na eh.
12:45.1
Pagkalungo ba siya
12:45.8
sa National Central Bureau
12:48.7
yung pangalan ni Duterte
12:51.9
they are supposed
12:54.7
hindi na kailangan
13:01.1
Kasi they're supposed
13:06.1
kung naman magpa-file
13:13.8
which I am inclined
13:16.5
that they will do,
13:18.9
di ba hohold ngayon
13:19.8
hindi gagalaw yung
13:22.3
Not on the say so,
13:23.6
of President Marcos,
13:25.7
but on the say so
13:27.3
of the Supreme Court.
13:28.3
So it's not on him.
13:39.4
may jurisdiction,
13:44.8
magaano sa atin eh.
13:48.0
pagka-cleaner yung way,
13:53.9
You don't have to do anything.
13:54.8
You don't have to lift your finger.
13:56.0
Just don't use your finger
13:58.0
Parang ganun yung sinasabi.
13:59.2
And just to be clear,
13:60.0
the Supreme Court
14:00.7
sinabi niya may residual jurisdiction.
14:03.1
Even if lumabas tayo
14:05.5
applicable pa rin
14:06.1
yung jurisdiction nila.
14:06.9
Kaya hindi ko mind din
14:07.5
yung sinasabi ni BBM
14:08.3
na walang jurisdiction
14:09.0
ng ICC sa sarili natin
14:15.9
that the elements
14:19.8
ang sinasabi niya,
14:20.6
walang jurisdiction ngayon
14:23.1
Which is accurate.
14:25.4
maliwanag sa Supreme Court.
14:26.3
I see what you're saying.
14:28.0
I see what you're saying.
14:35.6
even if nag-decide
14:36.7
ng Supreme Court,
14:37.8
magpa-file pa rin yan
14:40.3
because they need to
14:43.9
PNP arresting teams
14:51.0
after nung deliberation,
14:53.9
Talagang may basis, eh.
14:56.2
Ililift na yung TRO.
15:01.2
can arrest Duterte.
15:06.0
yung Republic Act
15:13.2
against humanity,
15:15.8
At nakalagay doon
15:16.6
sa jurisdiction mismo.
15:18.7
they can google this.
15:21.4
the Philippine authorities
15:26.7
of crimes against humanity
15:33.2
you cannot be more
15:34.3
specific than that.
15:38.6
Nakalagay doon, ah.
15:40.9
The 2009 law ito,
15:45.2
unconstitutional.
15:48.9
They can use that
15:49.8
as a basis, actually.
15:51.9
it's part of the legal
15:59.6
we're going to the last
16:00.4
part of this episode.
16:01.1
I want to talk about
16:01.6
a little bit about
16:03.0
But just before that,
16:04.1
isingit ko lang to.
16:11.1
he has an interest
16:15.9
let's just save it
16:16.9
for what it is, right?
16:26.5
They have to do this
