00:28.2
Nakasama ko nga yan.
00:29.4
Ang problema, kaya pinapatingnan ko yung organization.
00:33.0
Itanong natin sa kanya kung anong level siya doon sa ladder.
00:36.8
Sa organization, may ladder yan.
00:40.0
Kailan po kayo naging PDH chief, General?
00:43.0
I was PDH chief from 2006 to 2010.
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During the time of President Jimmy?
00:49.4
Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
00:51.0
Alright. You resigned in 2010?
00:56.5
From the military service.
00:59.4
From PDH, General.
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Kasi iba nga yung administration.
01:01.8
Dahil nanalo na si, palitan na si President Lothar.
01:04.7
So you resigned na?
01:05.7
Nag-resign na po kayo?
01:08.1
Automatic naman yun.
01:09.6
Because I was a political appointee.
01:11.9
Courtesy resignation.
01:14.3
Mr. Morales, kailan po masok sa PDH?
01:20.1
So nag-abot po kayo?
01:21.9
Yes, under my watch.
01:24.6
During the time na nagsama po kayo,
01:29.4
na nakatrabaho niyo po si Morales,
01:31.3
ano po ang pwede nyo sabihin sa integridad,
01:37.3
sa trabaho ni Ginong Morales?
01:40.6
Alam nyo, Mr. Chairman,
01:43.0
ako, Director General ako,
01:46.3
nasa dormat sila eh.
01:49.9
As a matter of fact,
01:55.3
nandoon siya sa iba ba,
01:56.3
investigador siya.
01:57.9
Meron pa siya na,
01:58.6
I think, nandyan si President Lothar.
01:59.2
I think, nandyan si President Lothar.
01:59.3
I think, nandyan si President Lothar.
01:59.4
I think, nandyan si President Lothar.
01:59.4
I think, nandyan si President Lothar.
01:59.5
I think, nandyan si President Lothar.
01:59.6
I think, nandyan si President Lothar.
01:59.6
I think, nandyan si President Lothar.
01:59.6
Pero above Pransya,
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there's somebody else.
02:05.2
saka ka lang aakyat
02:08.9
Deputy for Operation,
02:10.5
the classmate of our Honorable Chairman.
02:14.0
Ang nagtataka ko,
02:15.8
bakit he's all over?
02:19.2
Nilalampasan mo lahat ng tao.
02:21.2
Sino? You're talking about Morales?
02:23.1
Eh, nakadiretso nga siya,
02:24.6
hanggang Malacanang daw eh.
02:25.6
So, he did not follow the chain of command?
02:28.8
Yun ba ibig nyo sabihin?
02:29.8
Wala, walang chain of command na sinusunan.
02:33.5
Pagkatapos, tinira pa niya ako.
02:36.3
Ang sinasabi ko noon,
02:39.1
meron tayong command group, Mr. Chairman.
02:41.4
Ano po pagkatira sa inyo, General?
02:43.8
Eh, yung mga tungkol sa
02:45.2
chemicals yan, ipayamiguan.
02:47.9
Ang hindi niya alam,
02:49.9
yung chemicals na dinestroy na yun,
02:51.8
that was taken up
02:55.6
conference of the
02:57.1
of the command group,
02:60.0
conference group,
03:01.5
at the behest of the laboratory
03:06.8
Inexplained na wala
03:07.6
ng gamit siyan, pero po pwedeng
03:11.5
kumpanya, na kung ano yung
03:13.5
diluted chemicals, bibili nila.
03:17.6
So, nag-consult ako. He's not a member
03:21.8
Who was his immediate
03:23.5
superior, General?
03:25.6
Sabi niya si Francia, hindi ko
03:27.9
na silang matandaan.
03:29.6
So, wala kayong, nung
03:31.7
pumasok si Morales sa
03:33.7
PIDEA noong 2009, wala
03:35.8
kayong, hindi kayo nag-uusap,
03:38.5
totally, hindi mo siya kilala?
03:42.4
I know him, dahil kami yung
03:44.3
kami yung, what eh,
03:50.1
umupo ka ng mesa, lahat ng chismis
03:51.8
sa buong Pilipinas, mapapakinggan mo po.
03:55.6
Nandun yung kanyang misis, hindi ko malamang kung misis
03:57.9
niya yun. Kaibigan namin eh.
04:00.3
Kaya nung inirecommend,
04:02.0
si General Bobby Santiago,
04:03.9
my deputy, recommended,
04:05.9
inabsorb namin sila dahil talagang kailangan
04:09.4
Wala kami talagang, good afternoon, Senator.
04:12.2
Pwede niyo pa sabihin sa amin kung ano
04:13.7
pagkakilala niyo rito sa ahenting ito?
04:17.8
Ang nangyari nga noon,
04:20.1
ah, dahil in-need kami,
04:22.4
alam ko, investigator siya ng
04:23.8
pulis eh, galing nga sa NAR Group.
04:27.4
O di sige, nag-apply.
04:30.1
Dumaan sa process,
04:33.7
Na-approve, sa unahan doon siya.
04:35.5
Ang pinagtataka ko,
04:37.5
binanata niya ako, bandang huli,
04:39.0
pinalitan si Gutierrez,
04:41.7
pumalit si Gutierrez,
04:43.5
binanata na naman si Gutierrez,
04:45.3
tapos ako na magaling.
04:47.7
Tapos, nawala si Gutierrez,
04:49.4
pumalit si General Kakdak.
04:51.8
May problema na naman si General Kakdak.
04:53.6
Eh, lang kami may problema.
04:57.6
Ang nyo akala niya, magaling siya.
05:01.6
Kaya kami, wala kaming karapatan lahat.
05:03.6
Pero, General, ah,
05:09.6
o nag-apply sa PIDEA
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itong si Morales,
05:13.6
hindi nyo ba chinek yung kanyang background?
05:17.6
na-drop siya sa PNP,
05:21.6
na-dismiss siya sa serbisyo,
05:23.6
na-suspindi siya,
05:25.6
tapos na-drop na naman
05:29.6
Bakit hindi ko na
05:31.6
kuha niyon? Dahil nag-present siya sa recruitment group eh.
05:33.6
So, ibig sabihin,
05:35.6
he misrepresented
05:37.6
himself. Hindi, ah,
05:39.6
Mr. Chairman, if I may,
05:41.6
ngayon lang ako nakarinig, nandito,
05:43.6
ang daming military rito, pati si Chairman.
05:47.6
Ano, Chairman, ang nangyayari
05:49.6
if you are a rule?
05:51.6
When are you dropped from roles?
05:59.6
Timo, hindi na namin matanda.
06:01.6
Pero, automatically,
06:03.6
pag ikaw nag-leave ka, nag-over ka,
06:05.6
binibilang mo yun,
06:07.6
alam mong piligroso ka na, alam mong
06:09.6
dropped from roles ka, automatic.
06:11.6
Hindi na kailangan sabihin ka,
06:13.6
alam mong goodbye ka na.
06:17.6
alam naman natin yan, Sir, na
06:19.6
yung, ang kasunod
06:21.6
ng dropped from roles is,
06:23.6
discharged from the service,
06:25.6
kung hindi mo maagapan,
06:27.6
hindi ka makapag-report, automatic yan.
06:29.6
If you are dropped from roles,
06:31.6
ang succeeding order
06:33.6
to be issued is talagang
06:35.6
dismissed from the service. Yes, that is the process,
06:37.6
Mr. Chairman. Yes, the process.
06:39.6
Pero, alam mo, pag
06:41.6
lumampas ka, alam mo na, automatic
06:43.6
you are dropped from roles.
06:45.6
General, maliwanag
06:47.6
na maliwanag dito sa kanyang PDS,
06:49.6
nakalagay dito, have you
06:51.6
ever been formally charged?
06:53.6
Ha? Ang sabi niya,
06:57.6
he misrepresented
06:59.6
himself to the PDS, dahil marami
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siyang kaso. Pangalawa,
07:03.6
have you ever been
07:05.6
separated from the services
07:07.6
in any of the following?
07:11.6
Malabo na ba ito?
07:13.6
Modes of resignation, retirement,
07:15.6
dropped from the roles, dismissal,
07:19.6
end of termination,
07:21.6
term, finished contract,
07:23.6
awol, or phased out in the
07:25.6
public or private sector? Ang sinagot
07:31.6
dropped, he was dismissed
07:35.6
from the Philippine National Police.
07:39.6
Tinanong kita, last hearing,
07:41.6
if you misrepresented yourself
07:43.6
sa personal, sa PDS mo,
07:45.6
na sinabit mo sa PDEA,
07:47.6
na you were not dropped from the PNP role
07:49.6
not dismissed and suspended.
07:51.6
The PDS was made under
07:53.6
oath. So, malinaw,
07:57.6
na nagsisinungaling ka sa PDS mo.
07:59.6
Dahil dito, maliwanag
08:01.6
na maliwanag, na sinabi
08:05.6
na wala kang mga kaso. Sabi mo,
08:07.6
no. Tapos, dun sa
08:09.6
mga, tinanong ko,
08:11.6
may tanong dito sa PDS,
08:13.6
have you been separated from the service?
08:15.6
Sinabi mo, no. O pero
08:17.6
dito, natanggal ka sa
08:19.6
PDS, meron kang mga kaso,
08:21.6
you misrepresented yourself.
08:23.6
O di sinungaling ka?
08:25.6
Mr. Chairman, Your Honor,
08:29.6
represent, Your Honor. Kasi po,
08:31.6
kinumply ko po yan
08:37.6
Kinumply ko po yan. Yan pong
08:43.6
basta kinumply ko po yan, kaya nga po
08:45.6
nila ako tumanggap eh. To continue,
08:47.6
Your Honor, Mr. Chairman.
08:49.6
What did you comply, Mr. Morales?
08:51.6
What did you comply?
08:53.6
Wala, dito sa PDS mo,
08:57.6
ang tanong sa iyo, have you
09:01.6
have you ever been
09:03.6
formally charged? Sinagot mo,
09:05.6
no. Pero marami ka namang kaso
09:07.6
rito. At inuulit ko,
09:09.6
have you been separated from
09:13.6
in any of the following
09:15.6
modes? Resignation, retirement,
09:17.6
drop from the roles? You said,
09:19.6
no. Di sinagot mo, no.
09:21.6
Maliwalik na rin. Your Honor,
09:23.6
ayun nga po, kinumply ko po, Your Honor.
09:25.6
Tapos marami, dito, dito sa
09:27.6
nakalap natin mga,
09:35.6
Mr. Chairman, normal po, doon sa
09:37.6
operativa ang magkakaso. Oo nga po, why did you
09:39.6
misrepresent yourself? But dapat... Your Honor,
09:41.6
wala pong misrepresentation dyan.
09:43.6
Dapat sinabi mo, yes, you have been formally charged.
09:45.6
Recording in progress.
09:47.6
Mr. Chairman, Your Honor, ako'y nag-comply
09:49.6
doon saan hinihingi
09:51.6
ng PIDEA recruitment
09:53.6
ng recruitment noon.
09:55.6
General Santiago, you were
09:57.6
PIDEA chief at that time.
09:59.6
Kung nalaman niyo po na marami kaso po
10:01.6
ito, na he misrepresented
10:03.6
himself doon sa pag-apply niya
10:05.6
sa PIDEA, will you still accept him?
10:07.6
Sino naman ang...
10:09.6
Kahit sino naman yan,
10:11.6
pag alam mo niloloko ko, ba't mo tatanggapin?
10:15.6
wag kang magagalit, Jonathan.
10:17.6
Ang tawag ng mga kaibigan namin sa'yo, STL.
10:19.6
Wag mong kakalimutan STL.
10:25.6
Ang STL, ano STL?
10:27.6
Alam ko, the small town lottery.
10:35.6
STL, yun ang sabi
10:37.6
sa'kin. Kilala ka nila.
