Pulitikal na hidwaan sa UniTeam, hinimay ng political analyst | #TedFailonandDJChaCha
00:53.9
And you woke up like that?
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So, anong basa mo dito? I'm sure inoobserbahan mo.
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Itong pinakahuling balita, sabi nga ni Secretary Garafil,
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hindi, ano lang naman yan, standard lang yan.
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Kumbaga, yan lamang, ano lang, kumbaga, ano sabi niya?
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Ang sinasabi dito ni Shelloy Garafil,
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Part of the process.
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Part of the process daw ito.
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But it doesn't mean na mababago yung stand ng Pangulo.
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But still, parang obligasyon nila sa DOJ na ipakita sa Pangulo,
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ano yung mga options na po pwedeng gawin just in case maglabas ng arrest warrant ang ICC.
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Pero hindi ba ito magbubunga ng matinding civil unrest?
01:45.8
Go ahead, Professor.
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Well, unang-una, I think dapat intindihan natin yung konteksto dito.
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2021 pala may sinulat tayo na baka magkakaroon ng hidwaan sa pagitan ng mga Dutertes at Marcoses.
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Kasi, siyempre, pinag-usapan dito yung Malacanang, diba?
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And back then, ang issue is sinong tatakbong bilang presidente?
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Si Sara Duterte ba or si Bongbong Marcos?
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Well, eventually, nagsama yung dalawang panig na yan at nangyari yung unity na yan.
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Pero alam naman natin yung unity na yan ay hindi base sa isang coherent ideology
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or some sort of long-term shared vision.
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Ang gusto lang niya mangyari is talunin yung oposisyon.
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Yung Liberal Party, essentially, sila Lenny Robredo, no?
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Yun yung common interest nila.
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Now, sa aking palagay, at ito sinisulat natin over the years is,
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kung walang common threat sa dalawang malaking pamilya na yan,
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it's just a matter of time na magkakaroon ng rivalry, power play, no?
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At nakita natin, pagkatapos ng oposisyon, halos nag-melt away yung oposisyon, diba?
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Bumalik sa civil society si Lenny Robredo.
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Halos walang nanalang oposisyon except si Sen. Riza Hontiveros.
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Very dominant yung ruling coalition ng unity.
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So, unti-unti nakita natin, lumalabas na ito yung mga internal features sa loob ng koalisyon na yan.
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Unang zona pa lang ni Marcos Jr., nakita natin na si Kibuloy, yung mga supporters ni Duterte,
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some senators like Sen. Robin Hood Padilla ay hindi natuwag in a sense na hindi pinag-usapan ng federalismo,
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hindi pinag-usapan.
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Hindi pinag-usapan yung war on drugs.
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So, these tensions has been building up for more than a year.
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Now, of course, mayroon din mga distinctions dito kasi si dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte,
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parang unang-una pa lang, nag-warn na siya na pwede siya maging de facto opposition.
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Sabi na, I will fiscalize Marcos kung hindi tama yung gagawin niya.
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Pero kaibigan pa rin kami, alam mo naman yung style ni Digong.
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Si Sara Duterte o naman, usually ang style niya is somewhere in between, diba?
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Nasa administration pa rin ako, pero anak pa rin ako ng tatay ko at kapatid pa rin ako ng mga kapatid ko.
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So, medyo ipit si Sara dito.
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But we saw over the past six months, especially nung nag-speech si Digong, February yun,
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January pala yan, late January na yan, yung unang speech niya where openly inakuza ni dating Pangulong Duterte
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yung kasalaguan ng presidente na using drugs and then nag-incitement to rebellion na siya na minda na mag-separate.
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Dito nakita natin na...
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Nag-accelerate mga bagay-bagay.
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And we see na just as nag-accelerate itong hidwaan, banggaan ng dalawang pamilya na yan,
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and there were times na pati si Sara nahirapan kasi sumasama siya sa mga tatay niya, sa mga kapatid niya,
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kaya nag-alit din yung first lady.
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Paano yan? Hindi pwede na nasa administration ka tapos sumasama ka sa kabila na umatake sa amin, sa presidente mo.
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Dito nakita natin, yung position din ng government sa issue ng ICC ay medyo lumalambot.
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Kasi naalala natin, for the first year or so of the Marcos Jr. administration, very firm siya.
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Ang ICC, walang jurisdiction dito. Ang ICC, we will never cooperate with them. Essentially, the Duterte line.
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Diba? But since last December, nakita natin, unti-unti, medyo lumalambot.
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So for instance, last December, sabi ni Marcos when he came back from the US, I think Hawaii ba yan or something, sabi niya something like,
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i-review natin yan. Diba? Doon sa mga DOJ, medyo nagparinig din sila ng konti.
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Baka naman, balikan nila ng konti.
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And then we saw, of course, confirmation also late last year na yung pala, andito na pala yung mga ICC investigators at hindi sila binoblocked.
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So kung ikaw ay naniniwala na walang jurisdiction ng ICC, sila ay isang interventionist international body.
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Sila ay yung mga dayuhan supposedly na may assault sa ating sovereignty.
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Bakit mo sila pinayagan na pumasok? At bakit mo publicly na-confirm na dumating na pala sila dito to conduct
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yung mga final stages ng investigation nila?
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So ang nakikita natin dito is, papunta na tayo sa situation kung saan, kumbaga, ina-admit ng Marcos Jr. administration
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na baka bukas sila sa posibilidad na ipa-arresto yung mga high-level officials ng dating administration
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if ever lalabas ang warrants of arrest. But having said that, sir Ted, alam naman DJ Chacha, alam naman natin,
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si Kibolo, hindi pa natin alam na saan, diba? Or alam natin saan.
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Hindi, nahuli ba? Si Tevez pa, nahuli pa rin. I mean, nahuli siya sa East Timor.
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Si Bantag, antagal na. So at the same time, I know may mga iba naman tao na sobra naman na-excite
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at akala nila ito na, within a month, sa arrest na yung nasidigong.
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I think we also have to curb our enthusiasm kasi hindi gano'ng kalaki yung,
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hindi gano'ng kaganda nung record ng kasalukoy ng administration when it comes to going after fugitives.
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Including fugitives, way, way less powerful and prominent than the Dutertes.
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Kaya nakikita natin dito sa mga rallies na pinag-usapan,
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yung kanina, show force yun.
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This is a shot across the bow also kay Marcos.
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So parang in a way, nag-Mexican standoff yung dalawa eh.
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Si Marcos, nagpaparinig na, baka naman kung guguloy niyo pa,
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meron kami options ng ICC.
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Yung kabila naman, sige lang, gawin niyan, magpa-people power kami.
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So we're seeing this Mexican standoff happening on live television, essentially.
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And lalala ito in the coming months, if totoo yung sinasabi ni Sen. Trillanes
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na talagang maglalabas ng hindi lang warrants of arrest against ex-officials,
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pero against digong or very top-level officials including some senators of this republic.
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Okay. So sa pag, kung baga, kung intindihin natin yan,
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nagigirian ang dalawa, nagkakaroon sila ng kanina-kanilang cywar ito, no?
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Parang nasabi mo na nag-iikot sila ngayon eh.
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Yung Bulacan hindi nabigyan ng permit, no?
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From Davao, eto na, Visayas, kung sino man ang malakas na loob siguro,
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napapayag na doon sa kanilang lalawigan mag-rally.
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Wala itong maisug.
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So sinasabi nila, nag-iikot na kami, ha? Parang gano'n, nag-iikot na kami, ha?
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Kaya kapag pumayag ka na damputin o ipatupad itong arrest warrant na ito,
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gulo itong hinahanap mo.
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Sa kabilang banda naman, sandali lang, ha?
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Nag-be-briefing na ang DOJ kay Presidente, ha?
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Kung ano ang dapat na gawin.
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Yun ang basa mo dito, nagpapakiramdaman lang sila at nagtatakot.
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Sorry, ha? Sorry, ha?
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Parang boxing yan, di ba? Medyo shadow boxing pa lang ngayon.
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Nag-composition na yung dalawang panic.
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Pero huwag natin kalimutan, Sir Ted at saka DJ Shasha.
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Meron din accusation, including from Sen. Trillianes, na may coup attempts din.
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Now, di umanoy na may mga elements na simpatetic sa dating administration
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sa loob ng kapulisan na nag-iisip ng mga kung ano-ano dyan.
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Although, ayon kay Sen. Trillianes,
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at saka yung mga ibang kilala natin, mukhang wala sa active AFP.
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So, it's not like rally-rally lang pinag-usapan natin dito.
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And then, huwag natin kalimutan, meron din aspeto ng international geopolitics dito, di ba?
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Dahil alam natin, ang China ay malapit sa mga Duterte.
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So, may mga accusations na di umanoy, baka ang China din may interest na gugulin ng Pilipinas
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dahil naiinis sila kay Marcos sa West Philippine Sea.
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So, hindi lang issue dito yung ICB.
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So, mabay pa yung issue ng West Philippine Sea.
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Dahil ang Marcos administration ay very, very clearly critical sa China
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at pumapanig na sa Amerika, habang yung mga Dutertes, ang position nila sa kabila.
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Kaya kung papakinggan mo yung mga speeches, katulad ng dating presidential spokesman,
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Sari Roque, dito sa huling rally sa Dumanggete,
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hindi lang pinag-usapan ang presyo ng pagkain, mga ganun.
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Pinag-usapan ang West Philippine Sea issue.
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At sinasabi nila si Marcos, pahamak.
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Pinadala tayo sa proxy war ng Amerika.
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So, nakikita natin, nagsasama-sama itong mga issue na yan.
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At sir Ted, huwag mong kalimutan, meron din ang investigation ngayon sa Kongreso
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ukol dito sa accusation na yung gentleman's agreement na ginawa ni Digong with China
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ay potentially treasonous.
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Although wala pa tayong technically law of treason at this time.
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Nagsasama-sama kasi, hindi lang ICC issue.
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Sumasama rin ang West Philippine Sea.
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And then, of course, andyan ang midterm elections.
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Kaya nga, ang kutop ko dito is Marcos Jr. in theory ay nasa isang political sweet spot.
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Dahil pwede niya gamitin both itong ICC at West Philippine Sea issue to push back ito sa mga Dutertes.
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But at the same time, alam naman natin si Marcos din, medyo conflict avoidant tong tao na ito.
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So far, successful yung strategy na yan sa kanya.
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So, hindi rin ako nagtataka na Mexican standoff ang nangyari dito.
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Siguro, hinintay ni Marcos na may gagawin ng malaking mali.
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Yung kabilang kampo.
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For instance, cut red-handed sila na coup attempt or something like that.
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Then, maybe he'll make a move.
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But in the meantime, tama ka.
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Paramdaman lang sila eh.
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Medyo natusyado ba sila eh.
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Pero, hindi naman kaya ang itong mga binabanggit na possibility na bigla na lang itong nga andito na yung ICC.
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Kasi ang ICC naman, wala itong sheriff.
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Eh, wala itong police.
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So, in case meron pong arrest warrant, ang mag-implement niyan, yung host country, diba?
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Ganun po yun, ano?
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Wala silang mga sarili nilang sheriff na pupunta dito para manghuli na kung sino man.
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So, hindi naman kaya critical itong paparating na midterm elections
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bago mangyari itong binabanggit na mga ICC, ano na ito, move na ito.
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Dahil nga sa importante muna na magkaalaman tayo kung sino ba,
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sino ba sa mga i-endorso ng mga Duterte at ng bagong unity ngayon ni Pangulo Marcos at ni Romualdez,
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sino mananalo majority sa mga senador?
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Well, I mean, una-una kung magkakaroon talaga ng warrants of arrest later this year,
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baka ang kailangan ni Marcos magpadala from Manila, diba?
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Kasi, of course, may mga accusation na di man na may baka hindi pwede umasa doon sa mga security services sa Davao mismo.
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May ganun na aspect.
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Ito na pinag-usapan, diba?
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I mean, as early as now, I'm hearing some people na baka kakibuloy din.
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Kailangan magpadala ng tao from Manila.
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So, there's that aspect.
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Para sa akin naman, even if ma-release yung warrant of arrest,
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pwede gamitin ni Marcos yan as a democles sword, diba?
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Yung implementation na yan ay ibang usapan yan, diba?
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Pero pwede ma-stigmatize si Digong, diba?
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Imagine mo, kahit hindi siya ma-arrest.
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Kung nandyan lang siya sa Davao, tapos may warrant of arrest sa kanya ng Interpol.
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Kasi hindi lang sa Pilipinas, kahit saan sa mundo, na kasama doon sa ICC or compliance ICC, hindi sila magpapasok.
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So, for instance, Vladimir Putin ng Russia, of course, hindi mo ma-arrest yan sa Russia.
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Siya yung big boss, eh.
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Pero hindi siya nakapunda sa South Africa doon sa BRICS Summit ng mga malalaking bansa ng Brazil, Russia, and India.
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Kasi ang South Africa ay kasama sa ICC.
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At, or nagka-compliance ICC.
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So, isa kang international.
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Pwede ka lang siguro pumunta sa China, North Korea, yung mga ganyang bansa, diba?
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So, pwede gamitin yan bilang stigma sa election na sabihin,
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Oy, gusto mo makipag-alyado dito?
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Eh, fugitive yan, eh.
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Maka-parish na rin namin yan.
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So, it's very possible na magkakaroon ng talagang literally Mexican standoff mamaya,
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in a sense na stigmatize ito, nasa Davao siya,
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at ang sinasabi ng administration,
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Oh, huwag kayo sumama dyan, fugitive yan, diba?
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But, sir Ted, pwede rin gumana ito in the other way.
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Yun din ang inisip ng kapila.
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Kasi ayaw naman nila maging boiling frog.
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Ano yung boiling frog, diba?
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Yung nakihintay ka ng unti-unti bago ka muluto, diba?
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Ang ginagawa naman ng kapila is,
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because they're anticipating this scenario,
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ang ginagawa nila is, as early as now,
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nagpapakita sila ng force,
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at ginagamit nila itong issue ng ICC to say,
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So, ito, kawawa sa bigong,
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pinipersecute siya,
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itong mga dayuhan na ICC,
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kasama itong ni Marcos,
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ito yung assault sa ating sovereignty.
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So, yun yung magiging rhetoric,
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Will it be effective?
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Maybe to a certain degree.
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But this is unprecedented situation, sir Ted.
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I mean, we have never been in a situation like this,
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na biglang potentially international fugitive
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yung isang top political official
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or former president natin.
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Assuming, ito yung prediction ni Sen. Trillanes.
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Well, assuming nga, no?
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Kasi ngayon, ang headline din na Philippine Star,
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itong interview kay Atty. Conti nga,
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and may mga, ito sinasabi si Gen. Trillanes,
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at maging yung nabasa mo ba,
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yung post daw ni Sen. Bato?
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I'm trying to confirm nga with Chacha
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kung talaga bang galing sa kanya iyon.
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Kung nabasa mo, ano ba,
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pag ba merong blue check, ano ibig sabihin?
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Ang sinasabi, pag may blue check,
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legit yung account on Facebook.
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Ano ang post ni Sen. Bato?
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O, nakita mo na ba ito, Richard?
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Kino-kumpirma niya?
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Did you see the post on Facebook
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so sad of my upper class man
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when PRRD was about to remove you
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because you're a Pinoy appointee.
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Did you see this?
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May nakita kong, ano, hindi ko na-check,
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blue check pala yan.
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Akala ko, ano lang yan,
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sinasabi niya dito,
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oo, sinasabi niya,
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I moved heaven and earth to dissuade him.
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You finished the whole six-year term.
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Now, you are busy convincing PNP officers
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to testify against us in ICC.
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God bless you, sir.
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E, diya ka ba, Richard, kung sino ito?
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ang dahilan na hindi sinukot si Trillanes
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sa loob ng Senado noon,
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ito yung senaryo dito,
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yung sinabi ni Panelo na,
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ay, hindi namin mahanap yung mga,
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ano nila, yung amnesty paper niya.
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Dapat papakulong na to, diba?
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No, ang sa pagkalam ko,
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yung Senate leadership was the one
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who stood its ground.
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Particularly, former Senate President Tito Soto.
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So, I don't know yung mga ibang mag-credit grab dito.
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if this were true, talagang blue check ito
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at saka si Bato yan,
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baka there's really something going on.
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But as I said again,
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kasi ang ICC rin naman,
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medyo malabo rin siya, to be honest about this.
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Na ako kasi nakausap ko yung mga ibang experts din dito,
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like Atty. Carranza, among others.
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Like, titingin mo yung ICC,
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wala pang ilang buwan,
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meron na silang warrant of arrest kay PNP.
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after the Buka massacre.
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Ngayon, mukhang may plan din sila
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na mag-issue ng warrant of arrest
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Kenneth Netanyahu.
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Eh, yung problema,
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yung sa nangyayari sa Pilipinas,
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kailan pa ba yan?
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Diba, 2011 pa yata,
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when the investigation...
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Bakit ang tagal yung sa Philippines?
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Diba, hindi pa ka-overwhelming yung evidence?
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Bakit ang bilis pag sa Ukraine?
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Or ang bilis yung nangyayari ngayon sa...
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So, sometimes you also wonder,
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ano ba talagang kriteriya ng ICC?
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And then, yung isa pang debate is,
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mag-issue ba yan,
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warrant of arrest,
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kung mapaya lang siya?
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Kasi tama yung sinasabi mo, Ted,
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wala naman silang sheriff eh.
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Eh, good luck na lang kay Putin.
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Hindi mo talaga ma-arrest yan.
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Ginawa mo siyang panaya,
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pero hindi mo siya ma-arrest.
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Ganon din doon sa liderato ng Israel.
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Napakalakas na bansa yan.
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Aliado nila, Amerika.
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ngayon pa rin ang senator sa Amerika,
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isa-sanction nilang ICC.
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So, sa tingin mo, Sir Ted,
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mag-release pa ito ng warrant of arrest
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kung hindi sila sigurado
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na i-implement ni Marcos yan.
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Kaya there's a part of me thinking
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na behind the scenes,
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may negotiations with the Marcos administration
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na, uy, pag mag-release kami,
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i-implement mo na ito,
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baka mapaya na naman kami.
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hindi naman pwedeng sunod-sunod
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na mag-release ka ng issue ng warrant of arrest
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at walang sumusunod.
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Maging mukhang ewan ka, di ba?
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So, there's a lot of politics involved here.
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We talk about ICC
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perfect institution,
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judicial institution
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above any political consideration
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there's a lot of political consideration
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because kung hindi mo gaganan
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to warrant of arrest,
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pagtatawanan na lang sila around the world.
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something is going on
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if this were true,
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we wouldn't say things like that
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kasi wala siyang immunity,
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even if senador siya.
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Hindi siya senador
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kung may immunity ka,
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Crimes against humanity ito,
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medyo mataas na level na criminal.
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sa Davao forever,
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but if you're Bato,
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maybe you wanna travel,
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maybe you wanna go to Las Vegas
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and watch another,
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So, I think he would care
18:48.8
kung may Interpol
18:50.1
sa buwanan sa kanya.
18:52.6
So, last two points na lang, Richard.
18:56.0
gaano kaya katagal
19:00.2
fourth si VP Sara Sadeb?
19:11.2
mukhang naiipit si VP Sara
19:13.4
dahil nga sa patuloy
19:17.7
ng kanyang pamilya
19:20.5
kung saan naman siya
19:21.3
member ng gabinete,
19:22.7
kaya doon din sa loob
19:26.1
na hindi rin maganda
19:27.2
ang pagtanggap sa kanya,
19:28.9
sa mga magandang sinasabi
19:31.7
hanggang kailan kaya ito
19:34.0
ang kanyang laro?
19:38.3
Very important point.
19:39.5
Sa aking palagay,
19:41.2
siya yung ano eh,
19:42.9
kung paalisin si Sara,
19:45.2
yun na yung last straw.
19:47.4
Mini civil war na yan.
19:48.7
At least politically speaking.
19:50.9
something more serious.
19:53.2
Dahil si Sara yung glue eh.
19:55.2
She's the bridge eh.
19:58.3
Vice President Sara Duterte,
20:00.8
lots of respect to her.
20:02.5
She's being very patient,
20:03.6
she's taking punches,
20:05.1
including from the first lady
20:06.4
na openly sinabi eh.
20:11.5
if she steps out,
20:15.1
Ibang utapan niyan.
20:20.7
na magkakaroon ng,
20:21.6
siguro hindi siya handa
20:28.7
dun sa grand coalition
20:34.5
Walang hulog ni Sara.
20:38.1
it's really up to
20:39.3
Sara at this point eh.
20:40.8
It's really up to Sara.
20:43.9
or something like that,
20:46.2
But at the same time,
20:51.3
it's also impossible
20:52.6
for her not to resign.
20:58.6
inaapi yung tatay niya?
21:01.0
she's in a really
21:01.8
impossible situation.
21:03.0
I really don't know
21:03.7
how this can last
21:04.6
for four more years.
21:07.4
kasi the point is
21:09.3
all she has to do
21:11.9
not do anything crazy,
21:13.6
and she is a frontrunner
21:15.2
to be the next president.
21:16.4
Yun yung game plan
21:18.3
yun yung game plan niya.
21:20.1
things are changing.
21:21.5
The ground on which
21:23.0
is shifting by every day.
21:27.2
sa position niya.
21:29.2
it's not the first time
21:31.7
yung ganito situation
21:33.6
dating vice president,
21:37.5
Ganon din, di ba?
21:40.3
kasi critical siya
21:41.4
kung sa drug policy.
21:46.2
something similar to that.
21:49.3
hindi pa nangyari
21:52.6
Sara is holding on
21:54.0
as much as possible
21:56.4
also wants to avoid
21:58.3
at least as early
22:03.5
Last, last na lang
22:04.6
and short answer na lang,
22:17.0
sa pangkaraniwang mamamayan?
22:18.9
Ang mga negosyanting
22:23.4
ang position ngayon,
22:25.7
itong pinag-uusapan
22:31.9
instability na nangyayari
22:33.8
So, to speak, right?
22:35.1
Itong gulong ito,
22:36.5
may mga nagmamasip.
22:48.2
at buhay ng mga Pilipino?
22:51.0
sobrang tama yung
22:55.2
ng The Economist Magazine
22:59.0
isa sa mga pieces
22:59.8
na sinubatan nila
23:02.0
ng dalawang pamilya na yan
23:03.0
ay isang turn-off
23:05.3
at international community.
23:08.2
saan papunta ito.
23:09.2
Pwede magkaroon ng
23:11.0
Pwede magkaroon ng gulo.
23:11.8
But at the very least,
23:17.3
si President Marcos Jr.
23:18.6
sa mga malalaking
23:21.8
Kung parati inisip niya
23:23.4
anong gagawin niya dito,
23:25.0
education secretary niya,
23:27.5
ng people's power?
23:28.6
And then, of course,
23:29.4
yung image natin.
23:30.4
Diba sabi ni Marcos,
23:31.4
gusto niya i-reintroduce
23:35.3
tingnan mo naman,
23:37.6
their articles about this.
23:42.7
in a sense na marami tayong
23:43.7
pinapag-usapan ng mahalaga,
23:45.0
but at the same time,
23:45.7
hindi ito maganda
23:46.3
para sa ating bayan.
23:48.1
there'll be a resolution of that.
23:49.3
Now, some would say,
23:51.2
kasalanan mga Duterte yan
23:52.6
kasi nagka-current sila.
23:54.3
Some other would say,
23:55.2
kasalanan ni Marcos yan
23:57.8
But some would say,
23:59.2
this is just how messy
24:00.5
the Philippine political system is
24:01.8
dahil wala tayong
24:02.7
totoong political parties.
24:05.8
convenience ang meron tayo.
24:08.1
ang nakikita natin dito.
24:11.3
salamat na marami
24:12.1
and thank you again
24:13.0
for waking up this early
24:16.8
and we learned again so much
24:18.2
and we'll catch you again
24:21.4
God bless both of you.
24:24.9
Ted Filon at DJ Chacha
24:27.3
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