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00:00.0
Yung sinabi niyong implicated in the ICC information or communication against the former president, ano ba exactly ibig sabihin pag implicated itong mga PNP officials na ito po?
00:18.2
Ibig sabihin po noon, meron silang nakalap na ebidensya whether documentary or testimonial evidence na nag-dowit sa kanila dito po sa crimes against humanity.
00:34.7
So na-dowit sila. So because of that, as part of the due process, sila ay iniinformahan na kayo ay dowit dito.
00:44.1
Parang ano yan eh.
00:47.0
Kumbaga pinagpa-fighting.
00:48.2
Pilot ka ng counter affidavit mo. Parang ganon. Para ma-clear mo yung sarili mo.
00:55.5
Otherwise, pagka hindi ka nag-cooperate dyan, ma-elevate yung status mo to a suspect kasi hindi mo din-dispute yung ebidensyang nakalap dun sa kanilang investigation.
01:12.4
Can they also turn into witnesses against former officials?
01:18.2
Pwede po yun. Kaya it is up to them whether they will cooperate or not. So yun yung kanilang way to exonerate themselves from this case.
01:35.2
Itong ano, pag sinabi niya pong PNP officials, how high are or were their ranks in relation to the performance of their duties?
01:48.2
Noong conduct po ng drug war.
01:51.3
Ibang-ibang mga ranggo po. From the very high until dun sa mga involved dun sa mga operations on the ground.
02:04.2
Even mga mid-level or mid-ranking officers.
02:09.2
So yun po. Hindi po natin kasi mapapangalanan.
02:18.2
Sa piligro. Pag napangalanan sila.
02:22.2
Okay. Tapos ito, sir. Kasi di ba I understand. Dito sa ICC investigation, technically wala pa naman kasing formal charges. Tama po ba?
02:32.2
Hindi pa naman talaga napupunta sa ganun level. Correct me if I'm wrong. Nag-iimbestiga pa yung ICC prosecutor.
02:40.5
Pero yun nga po. Di ba ang tumok naman dito. Hindi naman kailangang mapapanagot lahat ng mga involved sa drug war.
02:46.7
Di ba yung mga maliliit.
02:48.2
Di ba kailangang dito yung pinakamalalaking isda. Tama po ba?
02:52.1
Opo. Ganun po ang disenyo nitong ICC.
02:56.6
They're interested dun sa mga mastermind or dun sa mga talagang pinakamabibigat yung kasalanan.
03:06.9
Hindi ko mo ikaw ay sargento pero yung role mo naman ay napaka strategic or integral dun sa buong operation.
03:18.2
Pwede ka pa rin madawid doon. So hindi tinitignan dito yung ranggo kung hindi yung level of responsibility as regards to crimes against humanity.
03:27.7
At ito, for sure may mga abogado na nanunood nito ngayon. Kinukumpara nila palagi doon sa criminal justice system natin.
03:41.4
Yung proseso natin, iniisip nila ganun din. Iba po ang proseso ng ICC.
03:48.2
Yung investigation stage. Ito, pagka sila ay ready na sila or confident na sila that they have enough evidence against the all concerned,
04:05.5
magpa-file na sila ng application for warrant doon sa pre-trial chamber even before ito formally naisasampa sa ICC.
04:18.2
So meron ganun. Para ma-secure nila. Kasi walang trial in absentia ang ICC.
04:27.5
Kaya importante na ma-issuehan ng warrant bago pa magsimula yung trial.
04:35.0
Dito kasi isasampa sa korte yung kaso tapos yung judge ang mag-i-issue ng warrant of arrest pag nakakita niya.
04:48.2
Merong probable cause. So nasa korte na. Dito wala pa sa korte. Meron lang tinatawag na pre-trial chamber na yun yung mag-re-review nung application for warrant of arrest.
05:06.2
Okay. Dito po sa mga kinausap na ng ICC na mga dati at active na PNP officials, sabi niyo more than 50.
05:15.8
Kasama po ba dito si Bato de la Rosa?
05:18.2
Hindi na yung senador pero siya po yung nag-implement ng drug war early on bilang PNP chief.
05:25.0
Palagay ko it goes without saying na talagang kasama na siya dyan.
05:30.0
Anyway, alam din naman niya yun na alam din naman niya na kasama siya.
05:34.9
Pero baka hindi siya kasama necessarily dun sa yung na-communicatean ng...
05:48.2
ICC kasi given na yung status niya na ano na siya eh. Principal ano siya eh. Principally involved siya eh.
05:60.0
Hindi siya accessory or hindi minor yung kanyang role. So given na yun.
06:06.0
So baka hindi na siya in-inform as implicated kasi isa na siyang primary suspect.
06:18.2
Ay nga po, help me understand po. Sir, so hindi na mukha hindi na kinausap si Bato de la Rosa dahil malaki yung involvement niya doon sa pagkapatupad ng drug war.
06:32.5
So yung mga kinausap, ibig sabihin pwede pa itong gawing witnesses? Pwede pa makakuha ng additional information from them that could help build the case against the principals? Ganun po ba yan?
06:43.5
Yes. Ngayon, in fact, ang sinasabi ko lang, iba yung problem.
06:48.2
Iba yung proseso sa kanila. Iba yung mga minor players, ika nga. Pero even the Senator Bato, palagay ko, kaya pa rin niya ma-exonerate yung sarili niya kung talagang ano siya.
07:08.6
Makukonvince niya yung korte na ano lang siya. Inutusan siya at hindi naman siya talagang...
07:18.2
instrumento doon sa pagpatay. I'm not saying ano yan, that will be bought. But theoretically, pwede pa rin siyang maging witness against Duterte.
07:32.8
But it is up to him. Pwede naman niyang isugal na lang. Isapalara na lang kung maga sama-sama na sila nila digong kung saan man sila dadalin nung kanilang...
07:49.9
So again, theoretically, pwede pa rin, no? At saka po, officially, no? Wala pa naman talagang formally accused dito sa iniimbestigahan ng ICC, di ba? Wala pong formally accused. Tama po ba?
08:01.8
We are just deducing based on the information we submitted. Yung mga evidence, yung mga testigo na humarap kung sino yung mga madalas na may mention, sino yung...
08:18.2
Yung mga evidentia, madi-deduce mo na from there. Pero yung mga na-implicate kasi, meron pa rin, ano eh, pagka lumawak yung investigation, eh pwede silang na-elevate eh. Ganun.
08:35.3
So pagkakaalam niyo ba, bumalik na yung ICC investigators dito sa Pilipinas since December? Or babalik anytime soon?
08:45.1
Palagay ko hindi na nila kailangan bumalik.
08:48.2
nila yung kailangan gawin,
08:50.0
nakausap nila yung kailangan kausapin,
08:53.0
dini-deduce din natin na nasa
08:56.0
wrapping up stage na sila noong investigation.
08:59.5
made the approximations
09:05.8
late second quarter lalabas
09:12.8
approximations or estimates.
09:18.2
Speaking of the possible
09:19.7
issuance of an arrest warrant by
09:24.0
former President Rodrigo Duterte and the
09:26.1
other principals,
09:29.6
in the not so distant past,
09:33.1
medyo ilang linggo
09:34.2
lang po ito nakalipas, binanggit ni
09:36.0
President Marcos na
09:38.1
kung sakali magpalabas ng arrest warrant
09:40.0
ng ICC, ay hindi po niya isusuko
09:42.0
si dating Pangulong
09:43.9
Rodrigo Duterte. I mean, what they make of
09:48.2
Statement coming from the President.
09:50.7
Okay. Ang masasabi ko
09:52.3
dyan, si President Marcos
09:58.3
but he will do what he needs to do.
10:01.2
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10:02.2
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10:14.1
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10:20.0
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10:22.0
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10:23.8
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10:26.3
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10:28.1
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10:30.3
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10:32.1
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10:34.3
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