00:30.0
I'm part of this kind of broader multicultural Spain
00:33.4
So when Sena Del Pilar, Sena Rizal used that in La Solidaridad
00:38.4
They meant the same way you would say Basque or Catalan
00:41.4
But by the 1880s when Rizal used Filipino
00:45.0
Ibig sabihin niya hiwalay na talaga yun
00:46.5
So for him it was just a matter of time
00:50.0
And question na lang paano ka makakarating dun
00:53.7
Pero that was the inevitability and the goal for Rizal
00:57.3
So it's a tactical rather than a strategic question
01:00.1
Napakalinaw na pro-independence si Rizal
01:02.9
Hindi na dapat dini-deny na pro-independence si Rizal
01:06.0
And also, I mean, just think about the point ito
01:08.4
Matagal na natin itong alam, di ba?
01:10.7
The Katipunan is of course a radical wing of La Liga Filipina
01:14.1
Breakaway radical section of La Liga Filipina
01:16.6
Na si Rizal ang founder
01:18.0
I mean, even the name Katipunan
01:19.9
Katipunan is in many ways Tagalog for what?
01:25.4
So talaga si Rizal
01:26.6
In many ways, it's a radical wing of La Liga Filipina
01:27.3
In many ways, pag sinabi ng, you know, the Spanish government
01:29.7
Say like, oh, si Rizal ang founder ng Katipunan
01:32.5
In many ways, they were true, di ba?
01:35.5
Tatawagin mo silang sinungaling
01:38.7
Kasi ayaw mo maniwala doon sa mga pasisista
01:40.6
But in many ways, they're right
01:41.6
Same thing, you know, with Marcos
01:43.0
Oh, Marcos was the greatest supporter
01:45.1
Sorry, Aquino was the greatest supporter of the CPP
01:48.2
Sasabi mo kay Marcos, hindi, sinungalan ka
01:50.2
Pero actually, you know, in certain respects, he's right
01:53.7
Pero hindi aaminin ng lantaran
01:57.3
Nung inaakusa mo, bakit mo aaminin, di ba?
02:00.4
Bakit mo aaminin?
02:01.9
I just have a question, Lelo
02:04.2
Didn't Rizal sign up to go as a doctor to Cuba?
02:09.4
And that's where he was caught and brought back in
02:13.2
Kasi, sorry, I just have to raise that
02:15.4
Kasi some are using that as a basis to say
02:17.7
Wait lang, if Rizal was really for revolution and all
02:20.1
Why would he do that?
02:21.0
Was that his way of fooling the Spanish about his intentions?
02:26.7
What was going on there?
02:28.0
I read about this, no?
02:29.3
Pero a lot of people say yun yung katraiduran ni Rizal, di ba?
02:33.9
Na nag-sign up siya
02:35.0
That's very common
02:38.1
But, number one, doktor
02:40.6
Hindi ka naman papatay, di ba?
02:44.6
Pangalawa, he really wanted out
02:46.8
Part of it seems like he really wanted out of the pitan
02:49.9
Parang depressed na siya sa the pitan
02:52.3
So, in contemporary parlance
02:56.7
Mental health move
02:58.2
That's what I think
02:59.9
There was a kind of depression that set in the pitan already
03:03.9
And he just wanted out
03:05.1
Remember, ano to eh?
03:06.3
Taong gala ito eh
03:07.3
Was it the most ideal move? No
03:09.2
Was it katraiduran?
03:11.4
He was done with the pitan
03:14.5
And he saw an exit
03:17.1
Which friars were smart enough to realize
03:19.9
That this is not him
03:21.3
Showing his fealty and loyalty to Madre España
03:24.3
This was just him
03:25.4
Finding a way back to the pitan
03:26.6
And he just wanted out of the pitan
03:26.7
And he just wanted out of the pitan
03:26.7
And he just wanted out of the pitan
03:27.5
Ikaw mismo, mahilig kang bumaya, di ba?
03:30.2
Imagine if somebody clipped your wings
03:31.7
And said, dito ka lang sa Mindanao
03:36.1
May kitikiti ka rin kahit paano
03:41.3
But if I stay there straight more than a month
03:46.2
That's where you get your energy and all of that
03:48.3
He wanted to make a trilogy, di ba?
03:50.6
He wanted the third part
03:52.2
So, probably wanted to go to Paris eventually
03:53.8
Somewhere else and all
03:54.8
Now, I have another question
03:57.3
There's this also part
03:59.0
Whereby Marcelo del Pilar
04:00.3
Which I think is a very good
04:02.9
Rizal actually gave up on the whole
04:04.6
Integrationist approach
04:06.3
Marcelo del Pilar mentioned that in 1890
04:08.6
May mga intermediaries and interlocutors
04:11.2
From the friars came
04:12.6
To his, I think, brother or something like that
04:14.6
And then they tried to push for this kind of
04:17.5
Na, you know, bubukas kami ng
04:19.6
What they called that
04:24.5
It will kind of create
04:26.7
A term as constitutional
04:27.9
Colonialism, right?
04:29.9
Whereby yung governor general mo
04:31.2
Is not just some codilio
04:32.4
He can do whatever he wants
04:33.5
And one of the powers he may lose
04:35.2
Is the power to exile anyone
04:37.2
Without a court decision
04:38.2
So, some sort of due process
04:39.5
There'll be a new party
04:40.7
Open to young Filipinos
04:41.9
There'll be may bagong dyaryo
04:43.6
Which Rizal and del Pilar
04:45.8
Ito yung sinabi ni del Pilar
04:48.0
Sila raw ay magtatayon rin naman
04:49.9
Nang isang periyodikong dyaryo
04:51.7
At tayo raw ay magsusulat
04:53.5
Sa periyodikong yan
04:54.6
Doon sa letter niya kay Rizal
04:56.7
Iningin lang daw nila
04:58.4
Ay huwag natin silang banggayin
05:00.7
Referring to the friars
05:01.7
What do you think about this?
05:03.5
What was the co-optation strategy?
05:07.8
Smoke and mirrors
05:09.2
What was going on there?
05:12.1
I'd like to grant
05:13.4
That meron naman talagang
05:16.3
Spanish colonial bureaucracy
05:18.2
Na more accommodationist
05:19.7
And then they realized na
05:21.9
Yung demands ng mga Pilipino
05:25.2
They were not the most
05:26.7
Reasonable demands
05:30.0
I think one of the reasons
05:30.9
Why na-radicalize si Rizal
05:32.7
Napaka-baseline lang naman
05:34.2
Ang demands namin
05:36.1
Hindi nyo tinutugunan
05:38.1
Secularization of the parishes
05:39.8
Secular education
05:43.1
Freedom of speech
05:44.9
Freedom of assembly
05:45.8
Basic liberal rights
05:47.2
So hindi mo tinugunan
05:48.2
Yung basic liberal rights
05:49.1
I don't know, screw you
05:50.2
And I think by this point
05:51.6
Rizal was just like
05:52.8
We've tried so many times
05:54.6
Just because they said
05:56.5
Sinabi nito ngayon
05:57.5
Hindi ibig sabihin na
05:59.9
Yun yung reading ko doon
06:02.6
Na siguro by this time
06:03.8
Parang over na si Rizal dyan
06:05.7
Kaya talaga ano eh
06:06.9
Umalis na talaga siya ng Spanya
06:11.5
Ilapit sa pasyente
06:13.0
Kaya umuwi na siya ng Pilipinas eh
06:15.5
Which tells you like
06:16.3
He wanted to bring revolution
06:18.7
And wala na yung mga
06:21.6
Middle ground kind of approach
06:26.5
Just last question
06:27.1
On the Rizal thing
06:28.1
What do you think about
06:29.7
Racialization of Rizal
06:32.0
Because obviously
06:32.6
He was not Creole
06:34.2
He had a very strong
06:36.1
I saw walks of him
06:37.3
Doon sa isang post ni
06:41.1
He could look like
06:41.7
The guys nearby here
06:46.1
Ano bang alam natin talaga
06:48.5
Alam ba si Chinoy ba siya?
06:51.5
What was going on there?
06:55.0
Actually just Mestizo
06:56.2
Nakakalimutan natin na
06:57.9
In the 19th century
06:58.7
If you said Mestizo
06:59.5
You meant Chinese Mestizo
07:03.5
Did not put qualifiers
07:05.1
You just said Mestizo
07:06.0
Ibig sabihin ng Chinese
07:08.7
Rizal was part of that
07:10.3
He's Chinese the way
07:13.8
Ganyan klaseng Mestizo Chinese
07:17.2
Highly acculturated
07:18.4
Highly nationalist
07:20.9
Yung mga Mestizo are
07:22.0
They're the people who
07:23.1
Are actually more nationalist
07:28.0
Very very nationalist
07:29.5
But also very very
07:31.5
Neighboring Malaysia
07:33.7
I didn't know that
07:34.3
When I read about it
07:35.7
That actually the
07:36.6
Chinese Malaysian
07:37.6
Played a very important role
07:44.0
I had no idea about that
07:46.4
Ano dito ba yung libro?
07:49.4
Kailangan basahin dyan
07:57.1
One of my favorite
07:58.5
In Southeast Asia
08:00.1
Kaya nga sabi ko minsan
08:02.8
Some of our arguments
08:03.5
Ay hindi ito purong Pinoy
08:05.0
Hindi ito totoong
08:05.8
Pipo-Malaysian noise
08:06.9
Are you kidding me?
08:08.4
Di ba meron siyang
08:09.1
Ancestral home sa China
08:13.8
Hindi ko sure about that
08:14.9
I saw some news about that
08:17.3
Where is there like
08:20.3
Pero ito nang sabihin ko
08:21.8
Saan ba nanggaling itong
08:22.9
Pride of the Malayan race
08:24.6
May kanyang klaseng
08:26.4
Bullshit na sa Pilipinas
08:31.8
Malayan is Malay speaking
08:33.6
In the 16th century
08:35.0
There were elite Malay speakers
08:38.8
Manila was a trading port
08:40.1
And if you wanted to trade
08:41.1
You had to speak Malay
08:47.2
There's really no such thing
08:48.8
As a Malayan race
08:51.2
There's such a thing
08:52.1
As Austronesian speakers
08:54.9
Most of Southeast Asia
09:01.2
Of Malay kay Rizal
09:03.3
Is partly a function
09:05.5
Mag-isip yung mga tao
09:06.7
It's also kasalanan
09:08.0
Ng current Prime Minister
09:10.6
Kung nung panahon ni ERAP
09:12.6
Umunta siya sa Pilipinas
09:14.4
Ng napakaraming lecture
09:15.6
Tungkol kay Rizal
09:16.5
About Rizal being
09:17.6
The pride of the Malayan race
09:20.2
I don't want to be
09:21.6
I don't want to be
09:22.8
Ungenerous to our
09:23.5
Malaysian friends
09:26.3
Communalist politics
09:27.6
Out of the Philippines
09:31.4
Pakialaman ng ganyan
09:32.8
Hindi kami kagaya nyo
09:35.0
Kailangan kinakategorize
09:36.1
Based on their race
09:37.7
Party ka sa lalang
09:40.9
Putra politics here
09:42.6
Halatang halatang
09:44.0
Yung ginagawa niya
09:44.7
Na remember si Anwar
09:45.8
Nung panahon ngayon
09:47.2
Mas post-racial na si Anwar
09:50.7
UMNO member pa yun
09:53.2
The prime minister
09:57.8
Race supremacist party
09:59.6
Of a Malay supremacist party
10:03.2
Tatawagin niyang si Rizal
10:04.4
Ng pride of Malayan race
10:05.8
Dito sa Pilipinas
10:07.1
Dahil meron siyang
10:08.3
May political reason
10:09.9
For him to do that
10:15.7
As the pride of the Malayan people
10:19.5
I'm just telling you
10:21.1
Mga gago ito mga to
10:22.9
Parang yung protégé niya
10:24.3
It's gonna bring Rizal
10:30.5
When you say Malay race
10:31.9
Kasama rin mga Thai siguro doon
10:35.4
Anything but Chinese
10:38.9
Why don't you just
10:40.0
Why don't you just say ano
10:43.8
Pride of Southeast Asia
10:47.9
You're absolutely right
10:49.1
Yung mga Malaysians
10:49.9
Maybe they also should keep quiet
10:51.5
About our South China
10:54.1
Huwag kayong makialam
10:57.9
Kung natin mo tulong
11:02.3
I really enjoyed this episode
11:03.9
Thank you very much bro
11:04.8
I really had to bring out
11:07.1
Yeah he was going to Cuba
11:10.5
That argument is raised against
11:12.8
Rizal from Antinayo
11:14.1
Thank you so much bro
